Greetings Axeheads and welcome to Force Feedback! This is the show where we give you the spotlight so you can Cry Havoc and Let Your Voice Be Heard! This week, the EBA community checks in for the win with poetry, sweet-ass GOG withdrawal, the final word on what the internet thinks of Bobby Kotick, and so, so much more.
Buckle up, release the bees, and hold on to your face, Force Feedback has been unleashed!
Austin May - To the members of the Axe,
other websites thou do smite,
always look forward to the skirmishes,
they happen Monday night.
Brent’s viking cries never fail to get me in the Skirmishes,
…and I laugh and cry at the puns that DK Money furnishes.
Tony never fails to say things oh so cynical,
EpicBattleAxe, you truly are the pinnacle.
And while some might think this poem very much absurd,
at least I know that I cried havoc, and let my voice be heard!
Stoney Datkowitz - Love the show! I watch it every Tuesday. I just had a few questions for you guys: Would you guys ever want to develop games?
Owen Marin - Sup guys, Im new to the show but from what I’ve heard in the last few podcasts you guys really bring a point of view to the industry that calls it like it is and most sites like IGN wouldn’t even dare go. But in all seriousness; GT gave Madden 11 a 9.1??? whats up with that?
mikemetalcage – @EpicBattleAxe nuff said: http://t9k.me/dI everyone hates him. nice!
followigor – @epicbattleaxe EA Canada, please SUCK MY D*** I want the NBA Jam on PS3, the FULL GAME, I don’t care if its promotion for Elite! F*** YOU!!!
Amenolt – @epicbattleaxe do member battlecry don’t get sweet gog action anymore???
jj_zero – @epicbattleaxe @IGNGirlfight @InvisibleWalls@Kotaku @xplay #ThereShouldBeALaw to punish parents who buy their 12-year-olds M-rated games.
TheInterwebz – @epicbattleaxe How about an EpicBattleAxe SWTOR guild led by the one and only BRENT ADAMS? Just imagine the Jackassary 
mikemetalcage – @epicbattleaxe Guys! You gotta check out the upcoming Demo of Modern Warfare 2! never heard of this game, maybe you can shoot guns in it!
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Alexandermex – i play games for the experience. the whole interactive experience. i think playing games for the challenge is a thing of the past.. because the games today are relative easy and if not they have diferent levels of dificulty
yazan93 – Hey guys Congrats on the forced feedback gives me another reasone to visite the best gaming site(yes im whoreing myself out to get noticed)
any way what do you guys thing if retail stores started pricing there games buy either Review scores or by the type of the game (ie:as multiplayer would be a small monthly pay).
thou shall post my COM
RockieOllie – In your discussion of why you play games you said something along the lines of ”…playing video game for the social purpose that didn’t exist back then…”
To me Gaming has always been a social experience, whether if it was Madden, NBA, Streets of war, GT, NFS,Rampage: world Tour Goldeneye 64, for me it was Donkey Kong 64. My friends and I would play for hours playing those games. Gaming has always been a social as well as personal experience.
SoFarGone – if you dont like EBC, put your nuts in a bear trap
nGage – Great show guys, as usual! In particular share your disgust for the exclusivity war. It’s just as retarded, as fan-boy-flame-wars, just on a grander scale. IMO we, the gamers, will be/are the victims here and it will only get worst as these companies will go to more extreme methods to gain more exclusivity.
The EpicBattleAxe Forums
Sequels: Which one worked, Which failed
crazyjackal -
God of War 2
God of War was an amazing game but with its sequel came bigger setpieces, bigger bosses, and more action. The games scope was greatly improved, the characters and their story were delved into with great detail and the game simply presented more epic and awe inspiring moments.
BrotherFluffy -
WORST-
Metal Gear Solid 2- Raiden. ‘Nuff said.
BrotherFluffy -
Sure, if Activision wants to put a monthly fee on playing Modern Warfare 2, it’s their right to do so. And yes, it will make them tons o’ cash. But right now, from what I’ve seen and heard, people don’t want it. And while there will still be a large number of people who pay for it, they’re also going to lose a lot more, and Activision’s reputation will be further painted as a corporation that only cares about taking your money, not producing quality work. Look at companies like Valve and Blizzard, that could have EASILY charged for things like on-line multiplayer for titles like StarCraft 2, Team Fortress 2, or L4D2. But they didn’t, and I think that’s one of the reasons those 2 companies stand in high esteem with most gamers.
Amp21 -
To your first point with the Activision and the monthly paying and what not. Im kinda torn between the subject but in my eyes its better then paying 15$ every like 2 months for 3 new maps that i could really care less about and should be FREE! I was thinking about what Mr. Tony Grice was saying that if you were paying 10-15 a month you would get all that DLC for free as long as you payed for the the monthly fee.
I’m glad you clarified your ‘Amen’ DK, cause I have respect for your acceptance of other viewpoints even when they collide and contrast with your own. However, fuck that punk ass cat that thinks parents should be punished for buying their kids mature rated games. No matter how hard you try, you can’t hide the world from your kids. And guess what? THEY DON’T FUCKIN’ NEED YOU TO! My son is fourteen now, but I’ve been picking up all the cool titles for us to run through over the past few years. Most of which are mature rated. And I’ve been taking him with me to see the greatest of the movies that have been coming out since he was about six or seven. Most of which are rated R. He likes to ask questions about what’s going on in the movies and games, and I’m happy to let him know my views on the shit that’s out there. But you try to baby your kids, and you end up raising pussies. On the real, if he wants that lifestyle for himself and his family, cool. But no one should try forcing their bullshit morals and views down everyone else’s throat through legislation, just cause they don’t think what other people do is right. If it’s not right for you, then don’t fuckin do it and leave everyone who choses to the hell alone.
Oh yea, Brent.. Ha.. I dig the enraged profanity laced outbursts man! Keep them coming!
DK get a bucket ready for when you play the new Madden cause its by far the worst Madden ive ever played, and this is coming from a HUGE NFL fan. The only reason i got this game is cause im such a big fan. But the overall experience down from the choppy jukes to Gus Johnson, Who is an awesome commentator, terrible and choppy announcing like you can score a touchdown and there will be no reaction at all.
I’m glad you liked it guys!
@LilSoulCBH
I agree with most what you’re saying. The government should NEVER say what media is ok to consume imo.
I’m 15, and my parents have always been great about looking at the ratings and why it’s rated that. No M-rated games are bought without them knowing what’s up.
Good thing my dad has the final say.
Brent hit the nail on the head about FPS’ and lack of content; for example, I loved and still love BFBC2, but the lack of new maps just pushed me away. And I have like 320 hours in that game as is, and have now gone down to 6060th on the world leaderboard rank on Xbox 360.
Really good feedback from people. However i would just like to let my voice be heard by fellow axe heads on the point of subscription based gaming for the likes of modern warfare if you buy the game for £40- 45 (yes i from England) you shouldn’t have to pay addition costs for multi player that should be a given, however i agree with points made with if their was a subscription based service that the people paying for that should get a say in the add on content for the game. However their should be no addition charge for multi player gaming once you brought the game is i suppose my main point on my little rant!
Gr8 Show keep up the good work!!!
Nooooo! Guys, I really like you but you cannot endorse this fucking stupidity that is the propostion of a law against parents buying their kids mature games.
First of all, I have a huge problem wiuth the government enforcing rules on which media is okay to consume for my kid. If I deem that my kid is mature enough to play a game, then thats my call, no one elses. One of the things I love most about this medium is that the ESRB notice is advice not law. You can bring up the point about bad parenting and just buying the kids whatever game to get them of their backs, but as I said that is JUST bad parenting. If you block the games, then they’re just gonna buy something else to “babysit” their kids for them. At that point I would argue that if you are gonna declare it illegal to buy your kids mature rated games, you might aswell make a damn law against bad parenting. If there is a problem, why not attack it at the root than one of the many, many branches.
To clarify I am not a parent who usually does this in fact I am not a parent at all but this kind of like control over the media bugs the bjesus out of me.
Why does Force Feedback keep crashing my iPhone3G? EBC Audio/Video doesn’t do it? Anyone else having this problem?
To start, I’d like to tackle the idea that we should pass a law to punish parents for buying their kids M-rated games. I don’t agree with it, and for mainly the same reason why we don’t punish parents for buying their kids r-rated movies or letting them read possibly objectionable comics. It’s the parent’s right to raise their kid however they see fit. However, I do think if they do buy an M-Rated game for their child, they automatically and unconditionally forfiet the ability to place any blame on the game company, or the retailer who sold it to them. You buy an M-rated game for your kid, that’s your deal, but if it blows up in your face, it’s your fault and yours alone.
As to subscription based services like WoW in comparison to a similar subscription based plan for games like CoD, I think Brent hit the nail on the head. While I do pay 15 bucks a month for WoW, I get SO MUCH content out of it, not to mention the various dungeons, holiday-themed events, and whatnot that are added into the game, free of charge. I cannot possibly tally up the total time I have spent playing WoW, but at a rough guess, I’d have to say at least 6 months’ worth(That’s 24/7 playtime). On the other hand, the most time I think I’ve ever played of an FPS is Bad Company 2, and I think I’ve only got in a week’s worth of time. I think a good way to run a subscription service would be to do it the way Quake is running their service, where you get the basic multiplayer, and then the people who pay more, get more.
-Fluffy out.
I put this comment in the podcast section, but I am wondering if this is the section for it, so excuse me for the re-post:
Wussup, DK shizzle? I have been wondering ever since I saw your interview with Tameem Antoniades about Enslaved (excellent!), I noticed he mentioned one of his favorite games was Another World and you seemed pretty happy about it. I want to ask you, what do you think are those timeless or classic games that newer generations of gamers probably haven’t had the opportunity to play and should give them a try? Thanks.
LOL… NO WAY! I was mentioned… followigor… for the first time like ever in any podcast. Thank you EBA! Keep up the good work!
Also Brent!… totally with you on exclusivity
@Wideangle
I have been able to reproduce the problem you describe. I’m researching it now to see if I can find a solution. Thank you for letting us know. I’ll have more info once I know something.
DK and Brent are correct, I do indeed plan on creating an Old Republic guild. We definitely plan on bringing our epicness to the force…………stay tuned… 2 things are for sure:
The Guild -
1.) …will be Sith (Sorry Jedi)
2.) …will be bad ass.
EBAAXEMAN (Reuben)
Raising pussies?
Uhh more like having some moral standards and rasing kids to let them decide for themselves when they’re old enough to be capable.
If you have the view that letting your kid watch brutal movies early on and play violent video games make for a better male(manlier :S?), then your just sad.
Parents need to take their responsibility, its not up to the directors, or developers, they rate their game and then the folks should play it with that in mind.
Maybe a law would be in place, just because there are so many dumb people out there that should never have kids..
and in the long run we the gamers are the losers since we get bad publicity in the media whenever parents can’t keep their kids of inappropriate things.
Some kids mature early on and can handle/understand it, some don’t but your argument of “raising pussies” is the most ridiculous thing i’ve heard so far.
I believe I have this issue fixed. You’ll need to re-download both episodes of Force Feedback. Please let me know if this fixes the issue for you.
Fascinating the things that people with different perspectives gravitate toward… If you truly got that idea from my post, then out of the two of us my friend, I’m definitely not the one who’s sad.
Are you seriously trying to convince anyone on Earth, that there is a single child alive, who knowing they had permission and would not get in trouble, would turn down the chance to watch the movies and play the games that ‘society’ deems only appropriate for grownups? Please. Every kid thinks they are old enough to do everything. Choose for themselves? You know damn well what that choice would be.
And who exactly are YOU to call anyone else too dumb to have kids? Who are you.. and who do legislators for that matter.. think you are to deem anyone worthy or unworthy.. fit or unfit, to participate in the complete fullness that life has to offer? Only fools seek that kind of control, because it’s only an illusion to help cover up their insecurities.
Those people out there trying to put any blame on rap music, video games, explicit language, violent movies.. or anything else, for the actions of kids or even adults who commit crimes and break laws, are likewise idiots. Everyone is completely and totally responsible for every one of their own actions. Including kids who’ve gained an understanding of what acceptable behavior is in the eyes of the law, and are familiar with facing the consequences of breaking rules. And that shit comes pretty damn early.
Totally agree.
I don’t understand how Kotick’s percentage wasn’t a 100. Who actually doesn’t hate that guy? I think my hatred is compounded by the fact that he’s an outsider. He has made it very clear that he doesn’t play games and that he is a “business man”. He tries to gouge us for every dollar that he can and he doesn’t even understand what we’re all about. It’s like a stranger trying to tell you how to discipline your child when they don’t have kids themselves.
Hey you actualy read my tweet comment and it made it on the show. Keep up the good work guys.
Just downloaded both episodes and they work fine. Thanks for taking care of that for me!
NOOOO!!!!!!! :’( I dont wanna be a Sith… Jedi’s can be as kickass as a Sith and they do the right thing, or at least try!
No fun…..
Then Ill just meet you on the battlefield and kick your ass there.
@Brent what did you wanted to say more about yazan’s comment?
Biggest ever fail in terms of a sequel that I can think of is Command and Conquer 4 you take away the core element of the game ie base building put in crappy levelling system and worst crime of all the over the top cheesy fmv are replaced with almost serious cutscenes with people actually trying to act whats up with that
I agree on the Metal Gear Solid thing. I played the first Metal gear on the playstation one and when I played MGS2 I got angry because you played that fucking Raiden wannabe girl dude 80% of the damn time!!!
Hi Brent. I was also having the same problem with my iPhone 3GS crashing trying to play the Force Feedback podcast. Thanks for the fix, it’s working perfectly now.
I was going to say I don’t know if its a good idea to tie the price of a game to a review score given that there’s already so much controversy over the validity of scores and bias in reviews…but DK thought it was more important to interrupt me. The nerve of that guy. Sheesh.
Those youngsters nowadays huh, how dare they interrupt someone
But yeah I get your point. But in a way they allready do that. Just not with upping the price (not looking at some shooter with a Modern day setting part 2) but keeping the price artificially up, staying at the price of like 60 euro’s/dollars for a long time, while overtime the price should go down.
what?! 2 times?! yes! brent – i must be ultra good then
thanks, my cousin in the metal of death
awesome. srsly. awesome!
thanks so much
oh and Lorin? you do you great job! really good “replacement” for Tony. cool guy, you are!