Welcome back ‘Axeheads. Sorry for my absence last week, but that crazy little thing called life got the best of me. Damn you life! Damn you! That may be one for you, you sorry-ass, schedule-ruining pustule, but I am back and I’m ready for you this time! So with out further adieu, let’s get into a good ‘ol Gaming Matters. This week I am trying something a bit different in that I am writing my column before hearing the week’s episode of EpicBattleCry. Generally, I listen to the show and write my article in response to the show’s discussions. But this time I have some early intel on the content and I am going to go ahead without hearing the thoughts of our pusillanimous punsters of the program. What will be really shocking in this week’s column, however, is not when I am writing it – no. What will probably surprise you the most is what this week’s column is predicated upon. What the hell am I talking about, you wonder? Well here it is – and it hurts me to say. This week’s Gaming Matters is founded on the idea that….ok….here goes……I agree with Bobby Kotick!
Wow – even though I was only writing that as opposed to saying it, I still think I just threw-up a little in my mouth. But, it’s true. I agree with an idea that big, bad Bobby put forth this week, though I do disagree with some of the specifics. The idea I am referring to is one that Kotick talked about during Bank of America Merrill Lynch’s Media, Communications & Entertainment Conference in Newport Beach, CA last week. According to Industry Gamers, Kotick put forth the idea of selling video game movies made up of in-game cut-scenes to gaming fans. Kotick brought this up specifically in the context of Starcraft II and the more than an hour of cut-scenes contained in that game. Here is what he had to say on the matter:
“If we were to take that hour, or hour and a half, take it out of the game, and we were to go to our audiences for whom we have their credit card information as well as a direct relationship and ask, ‘Would you like to have the StarCraft movie?’, my guess is that … you’d have the biggest opening weekend of any film ever.”

Snobby Bobby also threw around the possibility of a 20-30 dollar price tag for said movie (which we will discuss in a minute) and also mentioned that [unlike Hollywood] “our virtual characters don’t have agents, they don’t have managers, they don’t have lawyers”, suggesting that it would be easier for the gaming industry to produce these “films”. Likewise, Kotick pointed out that the gaming industry isn’t bound by the “theatrical release” convention that Hollywood faces and that our industry could release movies direct to consumers via download. Bob the Slob also felt that gamers are such enthusiasts that not only would they pay to download the movie, but that they would even pay again if their was a subsequent theatrical release of the “movie”.
So how do you feel so far about all of this? My first gut reaction was that Bobby the Boob was, once again, out of his mind. But then I took a step back, brewed a cup of tea, and pulled out my pipe and smoking jacket and pondered the matter for a short while. What I came up with was that this was actually a great idea! The details are a bit off, but the core concept is solid. As a matter of fact, as I was playing Mafia II recently, I thought to myself, “I would love to see these cut-scenes as a movie.” I liked the characters and the story and the graphics were just beautiful. Additionally, I have always thought that the gaming industry needs to get its product into movie theaters, both so fans can see some of this stuff on the big screen and to expose the mass audience of non-gamers to the incredibly high quality of today’s games.

But let’s get down to the nitty-gritty. First of all, clearly you couldn’t simply remove the cut-scenes from a game and sew them together and then call it a movie. Almost all games forward a story’s narrative during the gameplay portions of the game as well as through the cut-scenes. Simply mashing the cut-scenes together would, more often than not, result in a dis-jointed, patchwork piece of film (not to mention that many games already offer you the ability to re-watch cut-scenes like that directly from the game disc after you have viewed them once). At the very least, transitions would have to be created. But even with transitions, would you want to watch the exact same thing you just played through? I don’t think so. But if there was a significant addition of material added to the in-game cut-scenes to really create a “movie feel”, I would consider paying for such a piece of material.
But let’s be clear about something: there is no way I would pay $20-30 dollars for it! Most DVD’s go for $10-20 new, and certainly dip to or well below that price just a month after release. So why would I pay more than that for “game movies”? Especially when you consider that if I buy a DVD I can not only watch it on my TV, but I can rip it and watch it on my PC, PSP, phone, mp3 player, etc. Without getting these video game movies on a disc, my guess is that your ability to transition them to different pieces of hardware will be highly regulated (can anyone say DRM nightmare?). My feeling is that, given that a significant amount of the content will be the exact same as what is on my game disc, I would pay maybe $5-10 for this as a piece of DLC. Now if the developers created a full 90 minute to 2 hour movie of all new content, I would consider paying up to $15-20 to buy it and $5 to rent it. But that is about it. The idea that I would pay $20-30 for a movie made up primarily of in-game cut-scenes is utterly ridiculous.
Now, Bobby the Bobblehead made it clear that this was just some of his early thoughts on the subject and that the numbers weren’t final. So if we forgive the money-hungry munchkin the talk of pricing, we might have an interesting idea here. What do you think? Are you interested in seeing “movies” made from cut-scens of games? Interested enough to pay for it? How about getting to see them in a movie theater? Does that up the anti for you? Swing that ‘Axe and sound off below!










Honestly, if someone were to do a cg-movie using the in-game cinematics as a “base,” expanded on that with a few more scenes connecting and tying the cinematics together better, I would absolutely buy something like that. In a perfect world, I would prefer to get it on DVD or in some sort of format that would allow me to burn it to CD/DVD/whatever so I could play it on my TV, but I do agree Kotick had the right idea, wrong execution.
A few amendments to the idea:
1. They should be released 4-8 months AFTER the game launches.
2.They should be included in the special edition of the game(which usually runs for $10 more).
3. The purpose is to expand the audience. Unless there’s a tremendous amount of new content with the cutscenes (EX: FF7 Advent Children).
4. Shouldn’t a mandatory theatre mode be the standard of gaming by now?
5. If it’s sold separatly it should be no more than $15 DVD and $10 download.
6. Viking Brent Adams makes a point “there’s a site that does this called YOUTUBE!” Yet more copyright fiascoes will ensue just like it did for the manga/anime crowd and gamers will either buy the game or share what they think should be free.
I guess I misconstrued Kotick’s point. I thought he was talking about pulling the scenes out of the games themselves, and making people pay for the “cinematic” experience separately than the “gaming” experience. I think I’d quit gaming entirely and take up macrame.
If all he’s talking about is just mashing together the cutscenes from a game into a so-called movie, then yeah, fine, whatever. Good luck trying to get $30 for it, though.
One of these days some savy exec is going to wake up and realize that to make digital distribution work in a world of piracy, concessions are going to have to be made. Bobby Kotick…is not that exec.
…or human.
also I don’t think Bobby meant not to include those cutscenes in game. I think he meant that they could sell them because not all gamers actually complete the game and see all those cutscenes, that’s why he wants to take them and compile together and sell as a movie for those who want to see them. I just don’t know what will happen with all those youtube etc videos users post. Most likely then that will be illegal to capture cutscene video from games and post on youtube or other video upload/download service – at least for Blizzard Activision games.
Welcome back in good health (if you were feeling sick of course
) monsieur Baumgarten. How did the pipeweed and jacket fit? No Middle Earth poundering around, right?
But to the matters at hand again.
Bobby “I steal candy from babies and happyslap your face” Kotick has indeed at first sight maybe a good idea(i have adressed what probably will happen in the forum). A 1,5 hour movie of the game cut scene’s would/could work. However,knowing Kotick, he will probably do it in a way which is totally screwing us over. Instead of having the cutscenes seperate áswéll as they are in the game, they are probably either broken out of the game as you mention, or you can still get them, but you will have to pay for them when you finish a level/mission. If the man can suck every dollar/euro/yen, etc. out of something he will try. He will probably will sell it in BOTH ways. the more the better right.
And why does BK (:P) thinks that he can justify a higher amount to ask from consumers then regular movies do? what incentive does he get that he can push something higher then the regular movies? If that medium thought that they could raise the money point, they would have done that a LONG time ago. Hollywood knows how to get more money out of us. Next to the fact that they have a better knowledge of the movie-going people and till what point they can push us.
And what about the creditcard statement? He is of his rockers. Hasn’t he heard of a little thing called privacy? Yes you bought a game, but that doesnt give you a free guide to go and try to sell anything to a customer. Or is it allowed? Now im confused.
Oh well thats my take on this bullshit.
would anyone have paid to watch the red dead redemption ‘movie’ that was out a while back? i certainly wouldn’t have, and that had a real director fix his name to it.
sorry no, this is crap. i wouldn’t buy any collection of in game movies for any price.
besides its a short step from there to charging the consumer extra for cutscenes to a game they already have. imagine not being able to watch the cutscenes in mass effect unless you had the cerberus network. it would cripple the game.
That’s lazy talk! Comon man!
Only the laziest gamers will buy that and maybe some random people too.
But, give it 5 years and people wont remember how to type youtube.com. So, if this is going to happen, it’s going to happen around that time for the “major titles”.
So everyone get your glossy wide-eyed faces in check. Act like nothings happening. When the shit hits the fan use your spouses credit card.
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If Kotick is talking about removing cutscenes from games in order to make story telling not exist through anything other than gameplay, I have a huge problem with it. It would destroy video games as an art form.
If he’s talking about selling cutscenes on a separate DVD, while still keeping the game itself (with all cutscenes) in tact, I have no problem with it. But like others have said: if I have no cinematic replay option like Starcraft 2 has, I usually just look it up real quick on YouTube. I wouldn’t be interested enough to pay for it, but it’s just a convenience so that I don’t have to make sure I need a game save at that specific moment that the cutscene takes place.
If, however, he is talking about creating an entire movie (such as FF7: Advent Children), I would love it… as long as it’s not directly taken from a game. I wouldn’t want to watch the same thing I just played.
So Kotick suggests something like this but my suggestion that he will push to have COD Points be the microtransaction cash cow is just too evil to believe. Mark my words…
thats like taking all fighting out of the matrix film and leaving the talking , cut scenes are not the best part of the game anymore apart from the ending and half the time there in game cut-scenes.
if i want to see a game i cant play or get , il whatch someone play it on youtube and maybe see some cool commentary and gameplay at the same time.
Dear Mr Bomb Garden,
I have actually experienced what this would be like. I recently picked up an original copy of Resident Evil 3 and found that when I played it in my PS3, the FMV’s didn’t work. As my girlfriend and I proceeded to play through the game, we had an open laptop on hand to watch the cut scenes via you tube. This is the future Bobby K has in store for us.
What is wrong with how games work now? You buy the game, have a few levels taken out for paid DLC, you have a few guns, flashbangs and vehicles taken out and given to as free DLC, a little gameplay and a an hour or so of FMV’s. Soon we will literally have a 2 hour game coming out and Gamestop will have FMV’s as the pre order bonus.
I think the only way that publishers could sell the idea of paying extra for cut-scenes alone as DLC, would be as a directors cut edition. Or as part of special edition set.
All gamers agree that removing the cut scenes from games entirely is a horrible idea and that, while expensive, are an integral part of the story aspect of games. Now I would be willing to drop $5-$8 on say, a directors cut of the scenes from Bioshock; especially the golf club scene. But removing the cut-scenes would only give more ammo to the people who; despite they’re being uneducated on the subject, say games aren’t in anyway, shape or form, art. All of us here know that’s not true, and cut-scenes give us a firm example that we can point to as proof that games are just as stunning as top notch movies, or as thought provoking as great books.
Hia Axeheads.
I sorta agree with everthing you say (Lorin Baum=Tree-garten)
i would love to see a Starcraft Animated movie and allso pay for it.. if it where made as a completely new movie,and not allready made cinematics from the game.And i would surely ass hell not pay for it,if it where ingame engine grafix´s cut sceenes.. just to clarify.. they arent really that good.Boobie Bobby clearly executed it wrongly as usual (what a bafoon) and lets just say… Bill Gates once got a Pie thrown right in his face,and it is time that bobby tit face,put his face on display for ahrem! creampie head shot…
I really don’t see the point in releasing a game’s cut scenes without any of the gameplay. Now, if a game were to release, say, an hour long prologue or epilogue shortly before or after the game is released, for say $10? I think I’d jump on that.