EpicBattleCry - Skirmish 218: Pulling Out

On this Ho-Ho-Hopeless edition of EBC we engage in a tactical conversation about the future of the Rainbow 6 series. Plus, the Star Wars F2P space sim, funding Forza, jingle bells with Borderlands, Final Fantasy on Vita and much, much more! Keep your gift receipt handy on this holiday edition of gaming’s most brutal video game podcast!

 

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TOPIC: SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW - With Ubisoft announcing that Rainbow 6: Patriots is now being remade, team EBC evaluates the impact on the Rainbow 6 franchise while discussing the dilemma facing innovation with the FPS genre.

LINK: Rainbow 6: Patriots Remade Because the Game Wasn't Working

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No Man's Sky looks totally ace. It makes me remember the old ZX Spectrum game Elite. I used to love that back in the day. Traveling free around the universe, getting into random space battles and docking with unknown space stations. Great times and it mattered not a jot that the whole thing was rendered in sub 8 bit graphics. Your imagination and passion filled in the gaps for you. If No Man's Sky can achieve the same level of immersion and exploration that Elite did all those many moons ago, then it could be a pretty profound experience. Oh... And get DK on VGX duty stat. Don't deprive the world of THAT hair.

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Comment by Miguel Ramos on December 19, 2013 at 1:06pm

Hi guys. Good show. As far as the Rainbow 6: Patriots being remade, I'm quite pleased with it. Not that it's a good thing they aren't getting it right, but it's good to see a company taking it's time to make a good game. For me there is a bit of confusion when talking about FPS. Call of Duty and Battlefield are modern day military shooters. They have their differences, but if you take just a screenshot they pretty much look the same. They are also mainly online multiplayer games. Games like the Rainbow 6 series, Far Cry 3, Bioshock, Half-Life series, Borderlands, all have distinct characteristics, in tone, visually, gameplay wise, story and so on, and they are mainly single player or co-op experiences. You have to decide first of all what kind of game you are pushing for. Because the multiplayer focused game has nothing to do with the single player or co-op experience. If you make a game in the CoD format, you must be multiplayer and you must sell a lot to keep the community going. Because if you go for that type of experience in a single player environment, you end up with a crappy game. So I think we should stop just saying FPS, but understand what kind of focus the FPS has to be able to compare it to the right games. 

Comment by StarBound on December 19, 2013 at 1:43pm

There is nothing wrong with changing perspectives as long as the core elements remains. Metroid Prime is a prime example of how a game can be transformed from a side scrolling puzzle game to a more action packed first person game while retaining its puzzle core gameplay. Xcom declassified is an example of how you take your core game and fuck it up beyond recognition.

Rainbow Six was that tactical and strategic shooter where a mistake could be the end of a mission. Maybe Ubisoft should forget about releasing it as a $60 title and make it a smaller $15 title that remains true to the core aspects that the game had so long ago. If it works they can surely release another $15 expansion.

Comment by Morpork on December 19, 2013 at 3:08pm

Video not found or no longer available. 

Seems to have "Pulled out". ;)

Comment by S.o.S. SmokeyMcPot on December 19, 2013 at 3:37pm

Something is wrong... Fix it I need my FIX of EBC.. :@

Comment by AerintheADEQUATE on December 19, 2013 at 3:39pm

I'm glad to hear that Rainbow 6 is starting from scratch. I really haven't been interested in a Rainbow 6 game in a long time. My personal favorite is probably Rogue Spear, so I'd love to see the series return to that more tactical style. I still won't be putting too much hope on that, but I know the target game-play they had previously released for Patriots didn't really do anything for me so I'm interested to see what they come up with going forward.

And Star Wars Attack Squadrons? In my brain I heard "online enabled X-wing vs TIE Fighter" and immediately knew it wouldn't be anything nearly as stupendous as that. I guess we don't know for *sure*... but it sounds like something I will find myself ignoring...

And here's hoping everything goes smoothly for you and yours Brent! I've got my 2nd currently brewing at the moment, and while becoming a parent really does change so much about life I wouldn't have it any other way.

PS. Here's hoping for DAYZ standalone early access on Steam to get some kind of holiday sale, cause I wants to be inside it.

Comment by Ben Quintero on December 19, 2013 at 3:45pm

Respect the hair.  Or else!

Comment by Barachim on December 19, 2013 at 4:10pm

Damn you. Now I wanted a Mega Man game with the EBA crew as bosses.

Comment by Stephen East on December 19, 2013 at 4:18pm

That marcus day mercenary i think may be the first already on dlc dlc i have come across as when i downloaded there previous headhunter there was a fast travel to the marcus day but when i went there said dlc not avail few days later it was gone and when i got this and started downloaded it was done in 10 seconds(and it said was 1gb) so i suspect this was already inc with the previous but locked 

Comment by TheRealGamer on December 19, 2013 at 4:32pm

Brent's daughter was like screw your plans, my body is ready!

So many games to play and new stuff to learn about :P

Time to take off the fork necklace Brent but it was nice hearing the story behind it on that very very dark Dayz playthorugh. 

Comment by Helder Pinto on December 19, 2013 at 5:31pm

hey Brent, I know you've been really enjoying your vita.
just wanna let you know I would really recommend you get this! :)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0072A4JVW/ref=oh_details_o04_s01_...

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