EpicBattleCry - Skirmish 229: A Rift Between Us

On this totally unforced edition of EBC we discuss the approach EA is taking to its 10 year license with the Star Wars games. Plus, Ubisoft confirms AC: Unity, Far Cry 4 might have elephants, Microsoft tries to move more Xbox Ones and we talk about VR via Oculus. All of that and more on this virtually awesome edition of gaming’s most brutal video podcast!

 

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TOPIC: STAR WARS GOES BATTY: Team EBC jumps in its Tie Fighter to talk about recent word that EA plans on implementing the Batman: Arkham formula to its upcoming Star Wars games in terms of story and overall brand association. What exactly does this mean for the future of Star Wars games and what should fans be excited for or concerned about? We go batty for the opportunity to shed some light (sabre) on this all-important gaming topic!

LINK: EA Using Batman Arkham Approach for its Upcoming Star Wars Games


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MEMBER: Miguel Ramos

Hi guys. Good show. Just my two cents regarding VR. Personally I'm not worried about the true potential of the VR headsets, either it's Oculus Rift or Sony's Morpheus. They may have their problems but I'm sure in time they will be sorted. I'm also not worried about the appeal of the VR. Just like motion controls, if it works people will latch on to it and try new things. My problem is to know if VR can last long. I may be wrong, but I don't remember a single novelty that didn't wear off in gaming, specially if it needs an ad on. The Wii was a great hit but died quickly, motion controls are mostly dead, music games with all the plastic instruments are also dead, even 3D television never really took off. Why? Because people don't want to wear the glasses at home. So, if glasses are a problem, how can a full blown headset be ok? I really do believe people will get excited, it will be a success and die in 4 or 5 years. People want to sit down, have a way to control the game with their hands and want to be free from anything really attached to their body or any real physical effort. There will be a subset of gamers that will love it and cherish it, but true mainstream long lasting appeal is not something I foresee. Of course Sony and Microsoft need to get in the next big thing, either it being a fad or something more substantial. They cannot afford to be the odd man out, so there will be an arms race for the future of VR, and in a few years it will be something else.

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Comment by Averagus on March 28, 2014 at 9:56am

I don't know how EA can take an 'Arkham' approach with Star Wars. If they just mean making a series of high quality games, I'm obviously down with that but with the Star Wars franchise it is a little more complicated. The Star Wars franchise is one that can support multiple genres. For my part, I've always been a big fan of the Rogue Squadron series but others love the KotOR series, Battlefront and the Jedi Knight series. All share a direct relationship with the universe but are distinct gaming genres.

As DK said, the strength of the Arkham games has been their success in making the player feel like Batman. With Star Wars, it depends totally on what aspect of Star Wars the player is interested in. A smuggling scoundrel? A rebel fighter pilot? An imperial officer? A Sith lord? A Jedi? There is a lot to go with but I'm confident we'll get a few good games if EA spreads the license around to plenty of studios and lets the ideas fly. 

[insert anti-EA message]

Great shows as always guys!

Comment by Michael Petco on March 28, 2014 at 10:38am

Great Episode gang!

EA acquiring the Star Wars license isn't all that bad in my opinion. They have talent at their studios. Hopefully poor management won't get in the way of that. I'm not the biggest fan of the Star Wars universe but I do love great sci fi games and the teams at Bioware and Visceral have shown what they can do with that genre.

Nintendo's decision to skip this years Pax is interesting but not at all surprising. The media does in fact like to twist whatever it is they do to have a negative tone, just like Daniel did in today's episode. Reporting on news and giving an opinion with a negative tone is no longer simply reporting on news. I understands why DK feels like Nintendo should be doing everything they can to garner as much attention from the fans but PAX is small time compared to E3 coverage and Nintendo Directs have become insanely popular.  My reasoning for why Nintendo is skipping out is this. Nintendo has yet to give release dates for major games like X, Bayonetta 2, Smash Bros. and Hyrule Warriors. While it would be smart of them to at least showcase these games I think they realize just how badly they are going to have to bring it at this years E3. They will flood the show floor with everything I've mentioned as well as a few new titles and 3DS games. It's early in the year and a lot of whats slated to come out isn't actually out until later into the year; don't want to blow your load too early. 

As for what Nintendo will unveil next, their QOL platform is set to come out next year I believe, so that should be interesting considering they're are putting themselves in uncharted waters.

Comment by MuttonChops on March 28, 2014 at 10:49am

Comment by Daniel Orellana on March 28, 2014 at 10:58am
Audio download link?
Comment by best_jeppe on March 28, 2014 at 11:16am

Yeah, I want an audio-only download-link as well.

Comment by Johan - neM1_ on March 28, 2014 at 12:40pm

I think we as gamers tend to look at the VR-headsets as limited to be a peripheral to gaming, sort of like a surround sound speaker system. Why I also think most people find a $300+ price tag too steep.

I instead look at something like the Rift as more of a virtual monitor, with an infinite number of customizable screens, a for once useful desktop hub, or obviously the possibility of 360° environment.

Slap some cameras on the front of it too so that you can "see through it", and I don't think it would be as big a deal to be wearing it even around your home - the only other problem being weight. A home-theater google glass.

Personally, my Dell U2711 monitor retails for close to $1000, and though most people won't spend that kind of money, many have more than one but cheaper monitor.

Comment by Res Bellicae on March 28, 2014 at 12:48pm

I've converted the video to MP3, feel free to download: https://www.dropbox.com/s/5bywj5xyzpc7oxb/EpicBattleCry%20-%20Skirm...

Comment by Frank Tenpenny on March 28, 2014 at 1:32pm

I completely agree with Brent in regards to the Star Wars IP. The most fun I have had playing SW games have been when I’m not retreading something I already experienced with the films, but a new narrative in the universe. I hope EA makes good and delivers some great new SW IPs for the next generation. I

 

n regards to SWBF by DICE I am super excited, yet worried at the same time. I love cover systems, and third person shooters tend to do it better than FPS. SWBF 1 and 2 gave you the option to switch in between the two and wish would be that DICE offers both options, as Pandemic did.  I think it would be pretty awesome to have tailored bonuses for both perspectives (i.e. advanced cover mechanics in TP and refined aim and gun control in FP). 

Comment by DefGeoff256 on March 28, 2014 at 4:42pm

As far as Occulus Rift is concerned, I share Miguel Ramos' scepticism.  I've been through 2 waves of '3D,' a wave of Rock Band related games, motion controls, and a previous 'VR' craze that have all sounded great and looked great on paper, but all faltered in practice.  I don't want to wear a headset, I want to see my family (even when I'm playing games).

As for Star Wars having a new hope, I think EA taking over Star Wars titles is the best thing that has happened to Star Wars in a long time.  Having worked at Lucas before I can tell you that George Lucas seemed to do his best to make sure that nothing good ever came out of Lucas Arts.  He had no clue what he was doing with regards to games, and even when LucasArts made a great game from the franchise he would squash a sequel in its tracks.  Now EA, a games maker, is in charge of making Star Wars content? I see nothing wrong with that.  Mostly because that means we will actually see something come out (good or bad).  All I want is my X-Wing v. Tie-Fighter remake... Someone?  Anyone?

Comment by Kamil Adamski on March 28, 2014 at 6:45pm

Res Bellicae-> thx!

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