The Axe Factor 159: A Significant Leak

That's no caniform, its The Axe Factor! This week, we check out debut media for Never Alone and Killing Floor 2, discuss why Reason thinks gamers are a bunch of Libertarians, and go hands on with Broken Age, MGS Ground Zeroes and more!

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What We’re Watching:

Never Alone - Announcement Trailer

Killing Floor 2 Transformation Trailer

Sunset Overdrive First Look

What We’re Reading:

What’s Libertarian About Gamers?

What We’re Playing:

Titanfall

Broken Age

MGS Ground Zeroes

 

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Comment by Miguel Ramos on May 13, 2014 at 4:47am

Hi guys. Good show. About the libertarian thing well... just be careful. The poll was made calling 1000 people. These results are only for the 16% that say they play games frequently. So 160 people. That is not, by any stretch of the imagination, a valid sample. So saying that 60% of gamers think this or that is based on 60% of those 160 people. So 96 people. It's not even the number of people listening to this podcast in the first day. And here is a link that makes us take pause when we see "correlations". Don't take things at face value. http://www.tylervigen.com/ 

Comment by StarBound on May 13, 2014 at 10:19am

Since I shut down half way thru the political conversation and only took notes here and there I would have to say some of the choices we make in game shines through on real life. It is not always the case but in many instances I can see that is the result.

Comment by Matthew Smith on May 13, 2014 at 11:00am

The main topic reminded me of an article I read back in February that separated out specific genres that people play and their political tendencies. The link is  http://www.imgism.com/the-games-you-play-reflect-your-politics/ and I think it makes for an interesting read, especially in light of the main topic discussion. The possible connections between gamers, genres, and people's beliefs is one that I think is fascinating, though I would agree with Miguel Ramos that caution is called for whenever data is to be interpreted. That "spurious correlation" site is a fantastic example of how information can be deceiving.

Comment by Buster Mack on May 13, 2014 at 11:14am

I have to say the age group and the mindset of this generation and all pop culture makes this coincidentally related. Things historically move really slow in politics where as even gaming has become accelerated. I find myself playing 60+ games per year at 29 when I used to play 5 when I was a teen. We see change, progression and accomplishment which we would like to extend to the real world in liberal ways but it just isnt the case. Good discussion guys!

Comment by Old_School_Gamer on May 13, 2014 at 1:34pm

I think the polls in question were probably oversimplified. I mean...Perhaps the majority of gamers polled feel for example that there is too much government intervention and regulation in citizens lives but then it was the lack of intervention, lack of bank regulations by US government that nearly brought the country to it's knees some 5-6 years ago.

Additionally by video game sales figures alone one could assume that most gamers believe violence as the most viable solution to conflict resolution. That US foreign policy and military intervention is all good, that the US government spending insane amounts of money into it's military is a good thing (Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare *ahem). 

Comment by Hokum on May 14, 2014 at 3:11am

Whether or the poll was accurate or not it is still a result out of 1000 people and I find it quite disturbing, gamer or not, the number of people who say that caffinated energy drinks and "violent" video games should not be allowed. I would guess that these are the same people who do not know what they are talking about, which is always a case for any topic.

Are gamers libertarians? I think so, but not because they game, but because there is a bigger chance that gamers are younger, are exposed to more culture through media consumption and have grown up in a world that is newer and more modern.

Comment by Averagus on May 14, 2014 at 7:08am

I think like others have said it just correlates with the age group. Young male, especially white men are the more likely libertarians. And they are also more likely to play games on dedicated platforms. Unlike what others have said, one thousand people isn't a bad range for a survey assuming it was using a wide enough section of the US population. I don't see anything wrong or even surprising in such a result and we have to take into account that a lot of gamers aren't active in communities like this one so a survey among us might give a different picture.

Just a quibble with the data though, it did look as if the gamers only leaned libertarian on gaming related issues rather than the deeper (and more important) libertarian issues.

Comment by Miguel Ramos on May 14, 2014 at 7:50am

@Averagus I didn't say 1000 people was a bad sample size. The problem is they asked 1000 people what their gaming habits were. From those 16% answered that they gamed frequently. So these 160 people were considered gamers. From those they made the rest of the questions, percentages and conclusions. 160 is not a good enough range.

Comment by Averagus on May 14, 2014 at 10:31pm

Yes, you are right. My apologies, I commented some time after reading your comment.

I personally wouldn't anticipate the percentages changing much with a larger sample size though. I mean 3000 might only get you 500 or so. That's a lot more work.

Comment by torhal on May 15, 2014 at 5:47am

Maybe I missed s.th. in the original article, but wasn't the survey performed by Reason.com, targeting mainly Reason readers, who are according to Brent enriched in people with a libertarian mindset anyway? If so, then the survey is pretty much biased and not representable at all.

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