The Axe Factor 164: The Answer Is No

Hallucinogenics cannot distract you from The Axe Factor! This week, we're talking Escape Dead Island, Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, and how indie devs can still stand out from the crowd.

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What We’re Watching:

Escape Dead Island 

Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel Instructional Guide

40 Years of Gaming - Dan Bull

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What We’re Reading:

Sales in the Brave New Steam World

What We’re Playing:

inFAMOUS Second Son

Super Mario 3D Land

Hitman Go

Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes

 

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Comment by Miguel Ramos on July 8, 2014 at 6:27am

Hi guys great show! As far as the "current" vs "last gen" debate goes, I understand people still putting out games for PS3 and 360, but I don't see why they don't do a PS4 XBOne version as well. If you look at the software sales you see that the current gen versions largely outsell the last gen ones. Watch Dogs sold twice as many copies on current gen, Wolfenstein more than double. So even with so many more last gen consoles out there, the truth is people willing to spend full price on games are currently moving to the new consoles. I'm not going to pay 60 dollars for a PS3 game when I get so many free games on PS Plus and I have so many great games at a discount. People paying full price are the ones that need to have the games today, they don't want to wait until the price drops six months or a year from now. But those are the same ones that buy into the new consoles early. 

Comment by Daracus on July 8, 2014 at 7:09am

I'm a huge fan of the Borderlands series, but I'm not too excited about The Pre-Sequel. That being said, the fact that it is coming out for PC and the 7th gen consoles makes me believe that there is a Borderlands 3 or a Borderlands-like IP for 8th gen and PC. I know Pitchford said BL3 was not in the works, but with a franchise that popular, I cannot believe that an 8th gen console/PC version Borderlands is not being worked on in some capacity.  Even if it's just in the preliminary stages.    

Comment by JEAN-FRANCOIS BELANGER-DUMAS on July 8, 2014 at 7:54am

Great episode Guys!!! I don't have interest much in borderlands the pre-sequel too, I think I just played too much of the first one and the second. Too much exposition for me I think is the reason I don't have much interest. I have a PS4 has of right now, but since last month I didn't even touched it. I'm currently playing games on my PS3, mostly Dark Souls 2 and since I'm learning japanese for last 3 years I'm playing many jrpg that didn't even came to North America. I'm still waiting for game that is exclusivly for the next gen to have a really good next gen experience to play.

Comment by Rowan - AzureCantabile on July 8, 2014 at 9:20am

I understand what Lorin means by IP fatigue, I'm up for borderlands the pre-sequel, but not for a borderlands 3 anytime after and I'm likely to pass on the telltale game until it finishes all it's episodes.

That said the game being developed by 2K australia is the primary reason I'm excited for that game as I feel that Gearbox gets too much praise when borderlands is the only good game they've ever made and never enough caution after making both duke nukem forever AND colonial marines, and maybe I just wasn't in the right generation but I always thought their half life mods/brothers in arms games were terrible second rate titles as well. 

The other thing that's always bothered me though is how Epicbatleaxe itself often complains about games shwoing CG trailers but nobody seemd to care that the majority of Borderlands 2's featured extensive and recurring CG in almost every trailer, more character interractions, more personality for the playable characters and arguably more story than the game itself even had, to the point the the LAUNCH TRAILER for Borderlands 2 was more CG than gameplay. Gearbox for me is a poisoned well I approach with caution every time, because some of the DLC for BL2 has been just as awful and the rumours about how money was being diverted from Colonial marines just serves to make Randy Pitchford one of the people I trust the least in the games industry.

Also brent's fake british accent sounds more like a canadian one.

Comment by Derrick DesRoches on July 8, 2014 at 11:29am

Great episode guys, I just wanted to comment on the series fatigue you guy talked about in relation to Borderlands.  While it is a little different (but not much) the Batman Arkham series did almost the exact same thing with Origins, although Rocksteady did not support Arkham City nearly as well as Gearbox did with Borderlands (although has anyone done it this good on consoles).

Comment by Ian - Alexander Arts on July 8, 2014 at 12:19pm

The 3DS is a lot of fun. I still need to play more Mario 3D Land, but right now I am working on Zelda: A Link Between Worlds, I really like it. The 3D is really cool in both of them.

Comment by Vasyl Kashuba on July 9, 2014 at 9:54am

I disagree on the point that demo is 15 min. I remember the time when I bought my PS2:'), and there were some demos and one of those was Ratchet and Clank, which had 2 hole levels and I explored it to no end and spend on it easily more then 4 hours. 

Comment by Averagus on July 10, 2014 at 2:26am

Good to hear you trying out 3D Land, Brent! NOW YOU SEE? YOU SEE?

"making both duke nukem forever AND colonial marines"

They didn't make those titles though and that was the problem. Duke Nukem Forever (which I like btw), was made by a whole bunch of different studios and Gearbox just polished it up a bit and implemented multiplayer. I believe the same pretty much goes with A:CM though with less studios involved.

I actually loved the first Brothers in Arms and thought the Half-Life expansions were excellent but each to their own.

Continuing with the 360 and PS3 makes a lot of sense. They still have a massive, active install base. Especially with people like me nowhere near convinced the new consoles are worth buying. All I have to do is spend $200 on a video card for my average PC to have it running games better than both those consoles and most of the games will end up on PC anyway.

The Borderlands seems more like an easy way for Gearbox to satisfy 2K's earnings and keep up a buzz for the franchise while they develop something new. I don't think the series is being overdone. This is the third game in five years. That's nothing for most most franchises.

Comment by Chimera-Six on July 10, 2014 at 2:46am

I actually liked Dead Island.  The RPG system was very similar to Borderlands and it was a lot of fun in co-op.

Comment by Chimera-Six on July 10, 2014 at 2:47am

Also agree with you Averagus on all points.

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